Saturday, January 12, 2019

autopsy of facebook anarcho-primitivism [ like clockwork failure and hypocrisy ]

autopsy of  anarcho-primitivism page Mark Passio work like clockwork failure and hypocrisy. " Eoghann MacAodhagain Turning off commenting for now and will be deleting this post shortly. If you want to try again on discussing the subject, feel free to repost something similar, though without the flamebaiting and after referring to the group guideline on respecting other members and substance."  
Has any of the Zerzan fans & similar Anarcho-Primitivists ever even began to respond to Mark Passio's work EVER?
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Brady Mercer You're going to have to describe what your definition of natural law is. My understanding of natural law (and I may be incorrect about what you're talking about) is that they are observed facts about the universe and so we label them "laws". A theory, …See More
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Thomas Toivonen So you don't believe in evolution?
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Chuck Macghee on a personal level i understand and what hes saying and even agree with some of it BUT, pushing spirituality on anarchists is not going to work as a group. many anarchists are atheists and wouldnt accept any religion being involved, occult or otherwis…See More
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Denis da Rosa Passio is an ancap disguised as spiritualist. His arguments against moral relativism are very compelling, but at the core of his speech is just the same old dont-touch-my-property-or-you-die mentality.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur Agreed. So what's your point? Are you saying Its wrong for an individual to have boundaries and rational territorial constraints? Its one thing to hoard wealth and subjugate others by hoarding material shit in the guise of "its my property", and its an entirely different thing to set reasonable boundaries and be generous voluntarily with excess.
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Denis da Rosa The ancap notion of boundaries is far from being reasonable. The point of zerzan is exactly the opposite of passio's. "Territorial constraints" and "reasonable boundaries" - within an ancap system - will inevitably/eventually turn to hoarding of wealth and subjulgation. That's the point.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur So John Zerzan is essentially the commie he pathetically claims he's not. Thanks for telling me.
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Denis da Rosa It's not his fault you can't understand the difference between his views and communism.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur oh the only difference between Zerzan's brand of primitive communism and Stalinist Maoist communism, is that he has sophisticated arguement for Agenda 21 culling the Population, by indoctrinating little gullible followers we should all be absolutely ashamed of ever being born because most of our entire existence is a function of technological parasitism, where as commies "seize the means" of production and push technological advancement to produce culling methods. Really its classic Hegelian Dialectic scam.
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Denis da Rosa Have you ever read anything Zerzan wrote?
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur I read enough of the core shit Zerzan writes in various articles online that matters along with countless of his Anarchy Radio dialogues often kind of boasting and chucking about his cushy smooth saling life in a modern white suburban home in libtard Eugene, Oregon.
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Anders Jorgensen Ah, I see what you are. Disengaging now.
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Denis da Rosa Ok, great, please ellucidate where you're trying to get with this post.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur oh well, just reminding libtard antifa psychopaths of a good case for their true fucking colors that's really all
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Denis da Rosa Congrats then
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Justin Litten Does he have written works (ex. essays, manifesto), or just youtube stuff and images?
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur search and you'll discover Yes
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Anders Jorgensen "Natural law" in philosophy is something out of the Catholic Church.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur He's pretty thorough about where he stands on Christianity " "Fake-Ass Christians" is a good place to answer whether or not that's what he means.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur He's pretty anti Catholic church, especially Roman Catholic Church.
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Anders Jorgensen He is literally repeating things from Aquinas. It may be that he simply doesn't know where his ideas come from(this is very common), but nonetheless, these are Middle Ages through early modern period arguments that were mostly about who had power and how it was "God's will made plain in the design of Creation."
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur I don't know anything about Aquinas. Perhaps you can give an idea where to start?
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Anders Jorgensen Let me dig it out and I'll get you a title.
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Anders Jorgensen Here, my books are packed away right now. 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas
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Thomas Aquinas - Wikipedia
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Anders Jorgensen There isn't much reason to get into him unless you just like philosophy stuff or are into Christian apologetics.
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Brady Mercer Anders Jorgensen Right, he came up with 5 arguments for the existence of god, one of which is still being used today by apologists.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur I'll look into Aquinas thank you.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur Justin Litten No Mark Passio's work is not an argument against anarcho-primitvism but it is an argument for a more rational kinder gentler use of technology whereas John Zerzan's core principles seems to alwyas suggest to me The human race is better off in nomadic tribes of no more than 80 people foraging and hunting and not much gardening or cultivating because that would be the cardinal sin of "domestication" and we can all subtley go along with the U.N. Agenda 21 to cull the popuulation because its a mistake we were ever fucking born.
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Anders Jorgensen Yeah, this is just rehashed Aquinas.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur do enlighten me who Aquinas is. I never head of him.
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Anders Jorgensen To answer the question in the OP, no. Why would anyone? He has no relevance to any of our lives or projects.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur Anders Jorgensen Maybe because he's identifying himself as an "anarchist" and it seemed pertinent to "Anarcho-Primitivism" ? I'm so terribly sorry that there's no relevant connection as you say.
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Denis da Rosa The guy's clueless.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur beautiful blanket statement digressing to more insults
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Denis da Rosa More insulting than the original post?
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Anders Jorgensen Paging Eoghann MacAodhagain or Jonathan Lane Starnes. Sorry to bother you, but this seems like deliberate shit stirring without actual purpose or relevance.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur Anders Jorgensen Oh I do have a purpose and relevance beyond shit stirriing, I just don't really know how to restrain myself from digressing to insults at the fury I feel toward deluded people are who take John Zerzan's style of anarcho-primitivism seriously. Juxtaposing someone who makes a name for himself pretty boldly like Mark Passio may stir shit, but hey it also agitates thought to think how clean that shit off.
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Stephen Cosmos Arthur and the censor fake anarchists come out of the wood work like clockwork failure and hypocrisy.
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